Question 1350: If someone says, 'Peace be upon you, O Aba Abdillah' three times after the iqama and before the takbirat al-ihram, is there a problem with that?
Answer
✅ Answer: Pay attention to the following narrations:
1 عَنْ زُرَارَةَ عَنْ أَبِی جَعْفَرٍ أَنَّهُ قَالَ: إِذَا أُقِیمَتِ الصَّلَاةُ حَرُمَ الْکَلَامُ عَلَی الْإِمَامِ وَ أَهْلِ الْمَسْجِدِ إِلَّا فِی تَقْدِیمِ إِمَامٍ.
📚 Al-Faqih, Vol. 1, p. 285
Imam Baqir, peace be upon him, said: When the iqama for prayer is said, it is forbidden for the leader of the prayer and the people of the mosque to speak, except for sending forward a leader of the prayer!
2 عَنْ سَمَاعَةَ قَالَ: قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ إِذَا أَقَامَ الْمُؤَذِّنُ الصَّلَاةَ فَقَدْ حَرُمَ الْکَلَامُ إِلَّا أَنْ یَکُونَ الْقَوْمُ لَیْسَ یُعْرَفُ لَهُمْ إِمَامٌ.
📚 Al-Tahdhib, Vol. 2, p. 55
Imam Sadiq, peace be upon him, said: When the muezzin says the iqama for prayer, speaking is forbidden, unless the group has not identified a leader for them (in which case they speak and designate someone to go forward)!
3 عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِی عُمَیْرٍ قَالَ: سَأَلْتُ أَبَا عَبْدِاللَّه عَنِ الرَّجُلِ یَتَکَلَّمُ فِی الْإِقَامَةِ قَالَ نَعَمْ فَإِذَا قَالَ الْمُؤَذِّنُ قَدْ قَامَتِ الصَّلَاةُ فَقَدْ حَرُمَ الْکَلَامُ عَلَی أَهْلِ الْمَسْجِدِ إِلَّا أَنْ یَکُونُوا قَدِ اجْتَمَعُوا مِنْ شَتَّی وَ لَیْسَ لَهُمْ إِمَامٌ فَلَا بَأْسَ أَنْ یَقُولَ بَعْضُهُمْ لِبَعْضٍ تَقَدَّمْ یَا فُلَانُ.
📚 Al-Tahdhib, Vol. 2, p. 55
Ibn Abi Umayr said: I asked Imam Sadiq, peace be upon him, about a person who speaks during the iqama; the Imam said: Yes! So when the muezzin says 'qad qamat al-salat' (the prayer has been established), speaking is forbidden for the people of the mosque unless they have gathered from different places and do not have a leader, in which case there is no problem for one of them to say to another: 'So-and-so, go forward!'
✅ The three hadiths above are related to congregational prayer, according to which, when 'qad qamat al-salat' is said in the iqama of congregational prayer, what is considered speech is forbidden for the leader of the prayer and the followers, unless they do not have a designated leader and they speak to send a person forward to lead the prayer.
✅ But regarding speaking during the iqama and after the iqama in individual prayer, pay attention to the following narrations:
4 عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ أَبِی نَصْرٍ قَالَ: قُلْتُ لِأَبِی عَبْدِ اللَّه أَ یَتَکَلَّمُ الرَّجُلُ فِی الْأَذَانِ قَالَ لَا بَأْسَ قُلْتُ فِی الْإِقَامَةِ قَالَ لَا.
📚 Al-Kafi, Vol. 3, p. 304
Amr said: I said to Imam Sadiq, peace be upon him: Should a person speak during the adhan? He said: There is no problem. I said: What about during the iqama? He said: No!
5 عَنْ أَبِی هَارُونَ الْمَکْفُوفِ قَالَ: قَالَ أَبُو عَبْداللَّه یَا أَبَا هَارُونَ الْإِقَامَةُ مِنَ الصَّلَاةِ فَإِذَا أَقَمْتَه فَلَا تَتَکَلَّمْ وَ لَا تُؤْمِ بِیَدِکَ.
📚 Al-Kafi, Vol. 3, p. 305
Imam Sadiq, peace be upon him, said: O Abu Harun! The iqama is considered part of the prayer, so when you are saying the iqama, do not speak or gesture with your hand!
✅ In the two hadiths above, speaking and talking during the iqama and after the iqama in individual prayer is forbidden.
But also pay attention to the following narrations:
6 عَنْ مُحَمَّدٍ الْحَلَبِیِّ قَالَ: سَأَلْتُ أَبَا عَبْداللَّه عَنِ الرَّجُلِ یَتَکَلَّمُ فِی أَذَانِهِ أَوْ فِی إِقَامَتِهِ فَقَالَ لَا بَأْسَ
📚 Al-Tahdhib, Vol. 2, p. 54
Halabi said: I asked Imam Sadiq, peace be upon him, about a person who speaks during his adhan or iqama; the Imam said: There is no problem!
7 عَنْ حَمَّادِ بْنِ عُثْمَانَ قَالَ: سَأَلْتُ أَبَا عَبْداللَّه عَنِ الرَّجُلِ یَتَکَلَّمُ بَعْدَ مَا یُقِیمُ الصَّلَاةَ قَالَ نَعَمْ.
📚 Al-Tahdhib, Vol. 2, p. 54
Hammad said: I asked Imam Sadiq, peace be upon him, about a person who speaks after he has said the iqama; he said: Yes!
8 عَنِ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ شِهَابٍ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ أَبَاعَبْداللَّه یَقُولُ لَا بَأْسَ أَنْ یَتَکَلَّمَ الرَّجُلُ وَ هُوَ یُقِیمُ الصَّلَاةَ و بَعْدَ مَا یُقِیمُ إِنْ شَاءَ
📚 Tahdhib, Vol. 2, p. 55
Hasan said: I heard Imam Sadiq, peace be upon him, say: There is no problem for a person to speak if he wants while he is saying the iqama for prayer or after he has said the iqama!
9 عن مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ مُسْلِمٍ قَالَ: قَالَ أَبُوعَبْداللَّه لَا تَتَکَلَّمْ إِذَا أَقَمْتَ الصَّلَاةَ فَإِنَّکَ إِذَا تَکَلَّمْتَ أَعَدْتَ الْإِقَامَة
📚 Tahdhib, Vol. 2, p. 55
Imam Sadiq, peace be upon him, said: When you say the iqama for prayer, do not speak, for if you speak and talk, you must repeat the iqama!
✅ It is observed that although in hadiths 4 and 5 , speaking and talking during and after the iqama are forbidden, in hadiths 6 , 7 , and 8 , a dispensation for it has been granted, but according to hadith 9 , if a person uses this dispensation and speaks, he must repeat his iqama and start it from the beginning.
✅ The important point is that what is forbidden, prohibited, or has a dispensation in the above narrations is speech and talking, but saying 'peace be upon you, O Aba Abdillah' is not considered speech and is considered a type of divine remembrance. Because:
10 عَنِ الْحَلَبِیِّ قَالَ: قَالَ أَبُو عَبْداللَّه کُلُّ مَا ذَکَرْتَ اللَّهَ عَزَّوَجَلَّ بِهِ وَ النَّبِیَّ فَهُوَ مِنَ الصَّلَاةِ الْحَدِیثَ.
📚 Al-Kafi, Vol. 3, p. 337
Imam Sadiq, peace be upon him, said: Whatever with which you remember Allah, the Exalted, and the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him and his family, is considered part of the prayer!
1 1 قَالَ أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ إِنَّ ذِکْرَنَا مِنْ ذِکْرِ اللَّهِ وَ ذِکْرَ عَدُوِّنَا مِنْ ذِکْرِ الشَّیْطَانِ.
📚 Al-Kafi, Vol. 2, p. 496
Imam Baqir, peace be upon him, said: Indeed, our remembrance is considered from the remembrance of Allah, and the remembrance of our enemy is from the remembrance of Satan!
✅ Therefore, saying 'peace be upon you, O Aba Abdillah' after the iqama does not necessitate repeating the iqama, but there is no specific command or text from the Ahl al-Bayt, peace be upon them, to say this phrase after the iqama and before the takbirat al-ihram, and an obedient person placed the greeting to Imam Husayn, peace be upon him, as a way of showing gratitude to Imam Husayn, peace be upon him, in this place according to his own view, and some of the common people welcomed it, and today it has spread with the promotion of some preachers!
✅ What they have mentioned as the reason for this greeting and blessing in this specific place and have called it gratitude to Imam Husayn, peace be upon him, because our prayer is indebted to his prayer, has no narrative basis, and we are obligated to publish and act on the sunnahs mentioned by the Ahl al-Bayt, peace be upon them, but if someone has said this phrase after the iqama, no problem has been created for his iqama and prayer.
اللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلَی مُحَمَّدٍ وَ آلِ مُحَمَّدٍ وَ عَجِّلْ لِوَلِیِّکَ الْفَرَجَ وَ الْعَافِیَةَ وَ النَّصْر
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
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In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
Question 1
🔸 On what should a responsible person base his actions?
🔹 What recommendations have the infallible Imams, peace be upon them, given for referring to narrations?
🔸 What guarantee of salvation does referring to the narrations of the Ahl al-Bayt, peace be upon them, have?
🔹 What virtues and benefits are there in acting upon the narrations of the infallible Imams, peace be upon them?
The command and necessity of acting upon the narrations
Refer to the narrators of our hadith
A hadith that is against the public
The attributes of the Shiite
The optional morning prayer during a journey
Question 2
What actions are recommended to attain the remaining of Allah, peace be upon him?
What should a person do who loves to be among the companions and supporters of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance?
He must wait and act with piety and good morals
The covenant prayer
The tasbihs
Surah Bani Isra'il (Surah Al-Isra)
Question 3
During prayer, I doubt whether my wudu has been invalidated or not. What is the duty?
Doubt in wudu
Doubt in the invalidation of wudu
Question 4
Is there a specific supplication for Imam Mahdi, peace be upon him, in the book Al-Sahifa Al-Sajjadiyya or not?
A supplication for Imam Mahdi (may Allah hasten his reappearance)
A supplication for Imam Mahdi (may Allah hasten his reappearance)
Supplication 47 of Al-Sahifa Al-Sajjadiyya
Question 5
If I have a doubt in the tasbih of Lady Fatima, peace be upon her, what should I do?
Doubt in the tasbih of Lady Fatima, peace be upon her
Question 6
What is the ruling on not performing the witr prayer (optional night prayer)?
The disgrace of not performing the night prayer
Question 7
If we have a doubt whether the time for prayer has entered or not, can we perform the prayer, or must we be certain of the entry of the time through religious means?
Doubt in the entry of the prayer time
Question 8
Are eyebrow makeup and sunscreen that women use considered adornments that they are allowed to reveal or not?
The necessity of covering women's made-up eyebrows
Question 9
Is raising the hands during the takbir in prayer specific to the leader of the prayer, or do the followers and a person who performs the individual prayer also raise their hands during the takbir?
Raising the hands during the takbir in congregational prayer
Question 10
Is it only obligatory to send blessings when hearing or mentioning the name 'Muhammad' from the titles and names of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him and his family?
Sending blessings in the adhan
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
O son of Mard! Write this hadith with gold water:
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
This hadith must be written with gold water: